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CHARACTER NAME: Franklin "Foggy" Nelson
CHARACTER AGE: Late twenties to early thirties? canon doesn't give us a solid age, but we do know he was still in college in 2010.
SERIES: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Marvel's Daredevil)
CHRONOLOGY: Post-season 1
CLASS: Heroic bystander.
HOUSING: Maurtia Falls #8
BACKGROUND:
The MCU wiki has a page on Foggy right here that covers the events of both seasons 1 and 2 of Daredevil.
PERSONALITY:
From the very first time we see Franklin "Foggy" Nelson, it's pretty clear that Foggy is a friendly, optimistic guy who, when given half a chance, will rib his best friend about a variety of things, like said best friend's ladies' man rep, said best friend's tendency towards Doing the Right Thing No Matter What ("let's go save the world, Mother Teresa"), and other such things. He's the kind of person who tends to look on the bright side of things and find the best things in the people he knows--in episode 2, "Cut Man", he and Karen Page, the new secretary of Nelson & Murdock, head down to Josie's for an epic bender. Karen, who was attacked in the previous episode, mentions looking around the city and seeing dark corners instead, and Foggy, to calm her nerves, points out all the dangerous-looking patrons frequenting Josie's and tells her about the good deeds they do, the good people he knows them to be. Where Karen sees dark corners and Matt--Foggy's best friend and law partner--can't see at all, Foggy sees the light in most things and strives to it. He's kind and friendly, going out of his way to keep Karen company for the whole night in episode 2 and helping out his client Elena Cardenas and her neighbors by fixing Elena's pipes in episode 5, "World on Fire", and in that same episode going to help said neighbors when explosions start going off. He even attempts to try and communicate with Elena, even though he speaks literally no Spanish and thus ends up saying nonsense things such as "donde esta la biblioteca" (Matt: "you just asked her where the library was"), in episode 9, "Speak of the Devil". Foggy, simply put, is a person who's naturally inclined to good humor and being friendly to people he meets.
He's also got a healthy sense of humor, built in with that friendliness--as stated before, he's willing to rib his best friend about a variety of things. He's also willing to make fun of himself a bit, calling himself "a work in progress" at one point after he messes up talking to Karen, and tends to be more of the comic relief to his law partner and his secretary. Put him in a tense situation, or with someone who's panicking greatly, and he'll seek to relieve it by making a small joke and lightening things up a little. He'll even drag his friend out for a night out if he deems it necessary--I've already spoken about Karen above, but during his college years, he also dragged Matt out for a night out and proceeded to kid him about a number of things, among them being the reason Matt took Spanish in college and Foggy's own horrible attempt at proclaiming them "el grande avocados" . In the present time, as a lawyer and partner of "a prestigious law firm" that is in reality very tiny and very new, he tends to dry snark and the occasional somewhat terrible joke.
At the same time, though, he is incredibly awkward. He notes it himself more than once--he has a tendency of saying something that could be easily misconstrued as offensive or a line by accident and, on most occasions, trying to backtrack and proceeding to dig himself an even deeper hole. One shining example is in episode 10, "Nelson V Murdock": during one of the college flashbacks, Foggy fawns slightly over Matt--"you got your peepers knocked out saving that old dude!" he gushes, and proceeds to backtrack when Matt points out that "they didn't get knocked out", mentioning that it "would be a little freaky--no offense." He also, like five seconds later, calls Matt "a really, really good-looking guy", and backtracks when he says Matt's surprised reaction, noting that Matt's presence could open up a whole new league of girls that he could date. He also, while asking Karen to go home in episode 2 before their epic bender, manages to imply that she isn't important to the firm ("I'm a partner, at a prestigious law form, with important documents that need to be--documented so we can start generating some revenue, while you are--"), and, in backtracking to assure her of her importance to the firm, manages to dig himself into a deeper hole ("--also very integral in your own...special--I dug myself in too deep and I can't climb out.") in the process. He can be especially awkward, but most of the time, when he says something insensitive, he backtracks and tries to make people feel better.
Except for when he is seriously angry at them, as seen in episode 10. Up to that point, Matt's managed to keep his vigilantism a secret from Foggy, but now Foggy's found him bleeding out on his apartment floor, so that secret is out. When deeply, horribly angry at someone, Foggy can get insensitive, downright cutting with his words. As I've said before, he's a friendly guy, but when he's angry at someone--first at the Devil of Hell's Kitchen for the bombings that he believes blew up his neighborhood, then at Matt when he finds out--he doesn't hold back about his opinions. There's a mild case in episode 7, "Stick", where he calls the Devil of Hell's Kitchen a terrorist then, in answer to Karen's objection, amends his statement to nutjob. Episode 10, however, is a much more extreme case: Foggy is angry enough at Matt that he is incredibly blunt in asking him, "Are you even really blind?" and at one point even flips him off ("how many fingers am I holding up?" "one."), he's just that angry. He can be incredibly, brutally honest and blunt about how he feels about something or someone, not quite caring enough about if they get hurt by his words, when he's angry enough.
Which leads me to my next point: Foggy is honest, most of the time. He has no big secrets to speak of--he notes this to Matt in episode 7, answering Matt's statement of "everyone has secrets" with "I don't! I'd like some, though." He's the one who proposes that Karen tell Matt about their investigation of UnionAllied, the construction company Karen used to work for that was under Fisk, and is, generally, not the sort of person who keeps secrets from people he cares about greatly. He's fairly frank about things, though he couches it in sarcasm and cheery jokes most of the time, and it's likely that, up until Matt's Big Secret was revealed to him, the worst secret that Foggy ever kept was probably a guilty pleasure of some sort, and certainly nothing completely world-shattering or foundation-shaking. When Matt's secret is revealed to him, though, he ends up having to lie to Karen, who he's grown to care deeply for, to keep Matt's secret safe--an action he yells at Matt for afterwards ("I just lied to someone I care about!"), and it's clear that he is not at all comfortable with doing it, at least not at first. That he does it at all, though, says something about the loyalty he has to Matt that he does it anyway, telling Karen that Matt had been in a car accident and afterwards keeping Matt's identity as the Devil of Hell's Kitchen, and later Daredevil, a secret. (It should be noted that Foggy seems to be a horrifically bad liar by his canon point, as seen after he and Matt reconcile in episode 13--they end up telling Karen that they met Matt's alter-ego in "the alleyway! Where we used to. Um." He hasn't had to get used to lying to someone, after all.)
Speaking of loyalty, Foggy is a deeply loyal person, and he forms those bonds of loyalty and trust easily, coming to care easily for people even without knowing them very well. The most evident one is the friendship he has with Matt--he goes so far as to say, in episode 6, "Condemned", that he's the closest thing Matt has to family, and that Matt would look for him were Foggy the one out in the middle of a warzone, and he refuses a lucrative job offer in order to follow Matt into forming their own firm to fight for the little guy. His faith and trust in Matt is shaken after he finds out about Matt's secret identity, to the point where he stops talking to him for a while, but they reconcile soon enough with the promise of moving forward. He also shows loyalty to Karen, going from being reluctant to defend her in the pilot episode to taking her out in the very next episode for a night out on the town so she won't have to head back to her apartment where she was attacked and where a coworker of hers died, to telling her the butcher story in the episode after that (implying that he tells the butcher story to everyone he considers a friend, as some kind of initiation or something). He even starts caring almost immediately for Elena Cardenas, wanting to help her and her neighbors fight back against their landlord, and when she's murdered, he takes it very, very hard. He even still cares, a little, for his ex Marci Stahl despite the fact that they're up against each other and despite his jab at her about her losing her soul, enough that he comes to her and asks her to help them out by copying files from Landman & Zack so they can use it as evidence to take down Fisk, wanting to help her get out of Landman & Zack and keep her from going to jail for it. Foggy cares for people, most especially people he is loyal to, and he'll lie for them if he has to.
Foggy's also an idealistic person. He believes in the idea of convincing people to do the right thing by "asking the right people the right questions in the right tone of voice". Sure, when needed, he'll bust out a baseball bat and knock some heads in, but he's a lawyer, first and foremost, and a very idealistic and broke one at that, he believes that the right thing can be done with diplomacy and legal means. He's the sort of person who, when he gets a bad feeling about a client, will decide that, money be damned, he's not defending this guy because he is clearly guilty. He's the sort of person who knows that the system may be corrupt, may be broken, but they can still win through it, they can still use it to their advantage and make it work for the little guy. Sure, at this point in time, his idealism has been somewhat dented with the death of Elena and the discovery of Matt's secret, but it's still there--when Matt asks him in episode 13 what they can do to take down Fisk, he answers that they can do it "by using the law, Matt! Like you told me and Karen to do. That's how we take him down."
For all of Foggy's idealism and loyalty, though, he is hugely avoidant. When faced with a world-shaking revelation or a huge crisis, he tends to deal with the doubt it causes by not dealing with it. He can and he will take the initiative to solve a problem if he needs to, but he much prefers not thinking about said problem, and seeks out ways to distract himself so he doesn't have to think about it at first, seeks out directions in which he can run away from it, usually leading to the bar--he visits Josie's to get thoroughly hammered in episode 9 after having to identify Elena's body in the morgue, and visits Josie's again in episode 11, "The Path of the Righteous", which is the episode immediately after his big fight with Matt. And while he does end up approaching Matt to reconcile at last, he does it in the final episode of the season, which means that there is a long period of time where he doesn't talk to Matt at all, and let's not forget--as loyal as he is, as kind as he is, when faced with the idea that Matt has been lying to him since the day they met, he ends up walking out the door and throwing the Nelson & Murdock sign into the trash.
I've mentioned that Foggy presents the image of a money-hungry lawyer. For the most part, this is purely for practical purposes, as he and Matt are broke defense attorneys and he is well aware that they'll have to make compromises to not starve, and it never overrides his morals or his own ideals, but in one of the college flashbacks, he's pretty enthusiastic about the prospect of getting paid ("defense, I like that! There's money in that!") and he's also the one who seriously considers accepting the job offer at Landman & Zack, the law firm where he and Matt used to work as interns, even with his own qualms about said offer--he's there when L&Z's big corporation client pursues damages against a clearly sick man for disclosing trade secrets to a third party--and tries to justify that consideration to himself by imagining a scenario where he and Matt make partner and then start working to change the system from the inside, something Matt scoffs at when Foggy brings it up. He can be somewhat greedy (he's reluctant to defend Karen in the pilot, as her case is seemingly open-and-shut and she can't pay either of them), and sometimes if he thinks he has to he's willing to make compromises between his morals and practical needs, but when push comes to shove, he isn't so willing to run over other people just to satisfy himself. But that greed's there, he just doesn't make his final say based on it.
At the same time, though, when it comes to littler things, Foggy can be pretty practical. He presents, at least at first, the image of a lawyer who's in it for the money, arguing with Matt in the pilot as they're looking over their office about their nonexistent clientele--where Matt believes that they have to defend the innocent, Foggy points out that "innocent" means "not convicted of a crime"--"you know, as the law states", because as defense attorneys they're never going to be able to defend purely innocent people and still afford to keep the firm running and the lights on. He resorts to bribing his old friend on the force with cigars for his mother so said friend can send cases their way. Even later, when presented with a check that has a lot of zeroes on it as payment for defending a client, he's the first to want to take the case--though he's also the first to want to drop the client after he talks to the guy and realizes he's talking to someone who is, essentially, a hardened killer. Foggy might be practical, might present himself as a somewhat money-hungry lawyer, but in truth he's one of the kindest, most helpful characters on the show.
In short, Foggy is a good-humored, fairly awkward, sometimes insensitive but always kind and friendly and helpful guy, as well as a capable lawyer in his own right. Plus, he kicks ass with a baseball bat.
POWER: None of these are canonical, Foggy is an unpowered person in canon.
CHARACTER NAME: Franklin "Foggy" Nelson
CHARACTER AGE: Late twenties to early thirties? canon doesn't give us a solid age, but we do know he was still in college in 2010.
SERIES: Marvel Cinematic Universe (Marvel's Daredevil)
CHRONOLOGY: Post-season 1
CLASS: Heroic bystander.
HOUSING: Maurtia Falls #8
BACKGROUND:
The MCU wiki has a page on Foggy right here that covers the events of both seasons 1 and 2 of Daredevil.
PERSONALITY:
From the very first time we see Franklin "Foggy" Nelson, it's pretty clear that Foggy is a friendly, optimistic guy who, when given half a chance, will rib his best friend about a variety of things, like said best friend's ladies' man rep, said best friend's tendency towards Doing the Right Thing No Matter What ("let's go save the world, Mother Teresa"), and other such things. He's the kind of person who tends to look on the bright side of things and find the best things in the people he knows--in episode 2, "Cut Man", he and Karen Page, the new secretary of Nelson & Murdock, head down to Josie's for an epic bender. Karen, who was attacked in the previous episode, mentions looking around the city and seeing dark corners instead, and Foggy, to calm her nerves, points out all the dangerous-looking patrons frequenting Josie's and tells her about the good deeds they do, the good people he knows them to be. Where Karen sees dark corners and Matt--Foggy's best friend and law partner--can't see at all, Foggy sees the light in most things and strives to it. He's kind and friendly, going out of his way to keep Karen company for the whole night in episode 2 and helping out his client Elena Cardenas and her neighbors by fixing Elena's pipes in episode 5, "World on Fire", and in that same episode going to help said neighbors when explosions start going off. He even attempts to try and communicate with Elena, even though he speaks literally no Spanish and thus ends up saying nonsense things such as "donde esta la biblioteca" (Matt: "you just asked her where the library was"), in episode 9, "Speak of the Devil". Foggy, simply put, is a person who's naturally inclined to good humor and being friendly to people he meets.
He's also got a healthy sense of humor, built in with that friendliness--as stated before, he's willing to rib his best friend about a variety of things. He's also willing to make fun of himself a bit, calling himself "a work in progress" at one point after he messes up talking to Karen, and tends to be more of the comic relief to his law partner and his secretary. Put him in a tense situation, or with someone who's panicking greatly, and he'll seek to relieve it by making a small joke and lightening things up a little. He'll even drag his friend out for a night out if he deems it necessary--I've already spoken about Karen above, but during his college years, he also dragged Matt out for a night out and proceeded to kid him about a number of things, among them being the reason Matt took Spanish in college and Foggy's own horrible attempt at proclaiming them "el grande avocados" . In the present time, as a lawyer and partner of "a prestigious law firm" that is in reality very tiny and very new, he tends to dry snark and the occasional somewhat terrible joke.
At the same time, though, he is incredibly awkward. He notes it himself more than once--he has a tendency of saying something that could be easily misconstrued as offensive or a line by accident and, on most occasions, trying to backtrack and proceeding to dig himself an even deeper hole. One shining example is in episode 10, "Nelson V Murdock": during one of the college flashbacks, Foggy fawns slightly over Matt--"you got your peepers knocked out saving that old dude!" he gushes, and proceeds to backtrack when Matt points out that "they didn't get knocked out", mentioning that it "would be a little freaky--no offense." He also, like five seconds later, calls Matt "a really, really good-looking guy", and backtracks when he says Matt's surprised reaction, noting that Matt's presence could open up a whole new league of girls that he could date. He also, while asking Karen to go home in episode 2 before their epic bender, manages to imply that she isn't important to the firm ("I'm a partner, at a prestigious law form, with important documents that need to be--documented so we can start generating some revenue, while you are--"), and, in backtracking to assure her of her importance to the firm, manages to dig himself into a deeper hole ("--also very integral in your own...special--I dug myself in too deep and I can't climb out.") in the process. He can be especially awkward, but most of the time, when he says something insensitive, he backtracks and tries to make people feel better.
Except for when he is seriously angry at them, as seen in episode 10. Up to that point, Matt's managed to keep his vigilantism a secret from Foggy, but now Foggy's found him bleeding out on his apartment floor, so that secret is out. When deeply, horribly angry at someone, Foggy can get insensitive, downright cutting with his words. As I've said before, he's a friendly guy, but when he's angry at someone--first at the Devil of Hell's Kitchen for the bombings that he believes blew up his neighborhood, then at Matt when he finds out--he doesn't hold back about his opinions. There's a mild case in episode 7, "Stick", where he calls the Devil of Hell's Kitchen a terrorist then, in answer to Karen's objection, amends his statement to nutjob. Episode 10, however, is a much more extreme case: Foggy is angry enough at Matt that he is incredibly blunt in asking him, "Are you even really blind?" and at one point even flips him off ("how many fingers am I holding up?" "one."), he's just that angry. He can be incredibly, brutally honest and blunt about how he feels about something or someone, not quite caring enough about if they get hurt by his words, when he's angry enough.
Which leads me to my next point: Foggy is honest, most of the time. He has no big secrets to speak of--he notes this to Matt in episode 7, answering Matt's statement of "everyone has secrets" with "I don't! I'd like some, though." He's the one who proposes that Karen tell Matt about their investigation of UnionAllied, the construction company Karen used to work for that was under Fisk, and is, generally, not the sort of person who keeps secrets from people he cares about greatly. He's fairly frank about things, though he couches it in sarcasm and cheery jokes most of the time, and it's likely that, up until Matt's Big Secret was revealed to him, the worst secret that Foggy ever kept was probably a guilty pleasure of some sort, and certainly nothing completely world-shattering or foundation-shaking. When Matt's secret is revealed to him, though, he ends up having to lie to Karen, who he's grown to care deeply for, to keep Matt's secret safe--an action he yells at Matt for afterwards ("I just lied to someone I care about!"), and it's clear that he is not at all comfortable with doing it, at least not at first. That he does it at all, though, says something about the loyalty he has to Matt that he does it anyway, telling Karen that Matt had been in a car accident and afterwards keeping Matt's identity as the Devil of Hell's Kitchen, and later Daredevil, a secret. (It should be noted that Foggy seems to be a horrifically bad liar by his canon point, as seen after he and Matt reconcile in episode 13--they end up telling Karen that they met Matt's alter-ego in "the alleyway! Where we used to. Um." He hasn't had to get used to lying to someone, after all.)
Speaking of loyalty, Foggy is a deeply loyal person, and he forms those bonds of loyalty and trust easily, coming to care easily for people even without knowing them very well. The most evident one is the friendship he has with Matt--he goes so far as to say, in episode 6, "Condemned", that he's the closest thing Matt has to family, and that Matt would look for him were Foggy the one out in the middle of a warzone, and he refuses a lucrative job offer in order to follow Matt into forming their own firm to fight for the little guy. His faith and trust in Matt is shaken after he finds out about Matt's secret identity, to the point where he stops talking to him for a while, but they reconcile soon enough with the promise of moving forward. He also shows loyalty to Karen, going from being reluctant to defend her in the pilot episode to taking her out in the very next episode for a night out on the town so she won't have to head back to her apartment where she was attacked and where a coworker of hers died, to telling her the butcher story in the episode after that (implying that he tells the butcher story to everyone he considers a friend, as some kind of initiation or something). He even starts caring almost immediately for Elena Cardenas, wanting to help her and her neighbors fight back against their landlord, and when she's murdered, he takes it very, very hard. He even still cares, a little, for his ex Marci Stahl despite the fact that they're up against each other and despite his jab at her about her losing her soul, enough that he comes to her and asks her to help them out by copying files from Landman & Zack so they can use it as evidence to take down Fisk, wanting to help her get out of Landman & Zack and keep her from going to jail for it. Foggy cares for people, most especially people he is loyal to, and he'll lie for them if he has to.
Foggy's also an idealistic person. He believes in the idea of convincing people to do the right thing by "asking the right people the right questions in the right tone of voice". Sure, when needed, he'll bust out a baseball bat and knock some heads in, but he's a lawyer, first and foremost, and a very idealistic and broke one at that, he believes that the right thing can be done with diplomacy and legal means. He's the sort of person who, when he gets a bad feeling about a client, will decide that, money be damned, he's not defending this guy because he is clearly guilty. He's the sort of person who knows that the system may be corrupt, may be broken, but they can still win through it, they can still use it to their advantage and make it work for the little guy. Sure, at this point in time, his idealism has been somewhat dented with the death of Elena and the discovery of Matt's secret, but it's still there--when Matt asks him in episode 13 what they can do to take down Fisk, he answers that they can do it "by using the law, Matt! Like you told me and Karen to do. That's how we take him down."
For all of Foggy's idealism and loyalty, though, he is hugely avoidant. When faced with a world-shaking revelation or a huge crisis, he tends to deal with the doubt it causes by not dealing with it. He can and he will take the initiative to solve a problem if he needs to, but he much prefers not thinking about said problem, and seeks out ways to distract himself so he doesn't have to think about it at first, seeks out directions in which he can run away from it, usually leading to the bar--he visits Josie's to get thoroughly hammered in episode 9 after having to identify Elena's body in the morgue, and visits Josie's again in episode 11, "The Path of the Righteous", which is the episode immediately after his big fight with Matt. And while he does end up approaching Matt to reconcile at last, he does it in the final episode of the season, which means that there is a long period of time where he doesn't talk to Matt at all, and let's not forget--as loyal as he is, as kind as he is, when faced with the idea that Matt has been lying to him since the day they met, he ends up walking out the door and throwing the Nelson & Murdock sign into the trash.
I've mentioned that Foggy presents the image of a money-hungry lawyer. For the most part, this is purely for practical purposes, as he and Matt are broke defense attorneys and he is well aware that they'll have to make compromises to not starve, and it never overrides his morals or his own ideals, but in one of the college flashbacks, he's pretty enthusiastic about the prospect of getting paid ("defense, I like that! There's money in that!") and he's also the one who seriously considers accepting the job offer at Landman & Zack, the law firm where he and Matt used to work as interns, even with his own qualms about said offer--he's there when L&Z's big corporation client pursues damages against a clearly sick man for disclosing trade secrets to a third party--and tries to justify that consideration to himself by imagining a scenario where he and Matt make partner and then start working to change the system from the inside, something Matt scoffs at when Foggy brings it up. He can be somewhat greedy (he's reluctant to defend Karen in the pilot, as her case is seemingly open-and-shut and she can't pay either of them), and sometimes if he thinks he has to he's willing to make compromises between his morals and practical needs, but when push comes to shove, he isn't so willing to run over other people just to satisfy himself. But that greed's there, he just doesn't make his final say based on it.
At the same time, though, when it comes to littler things, Foggy can be pretty practical. He presents, at least at first, the image of a lawyer who's in it for the money, arguing with Matt in the pilot as they're looking over their office about their nonexistent clientele--where Matt believes that they have to defend the innocent, Foggy points out that "innocent" means "not convicted of a crime"--"you know, as the law states", because as defense attorneys they're never going to be able to defend purely innocent people and still afford to keep the firm running and the lights on. He resorts to bribing his old friend on the force with cigars for his mother so said friend can send cases their way. Even later, when presented with a check that has a lot of zeroes on it as payment for defending a client, he's the first to want to take the case--though he's also the first to want to drop the client after he talks to the guy and realizes he's talking to someone who is, essentially, a hardened killer. Foggy might be practical, might present himself as a somewhat money-hungry lawyer, but in truth he's one of the kindest, most helpful characters on the show.
In short, Foggy is a good-humored, fairly awkward, sometimes insensitive but always kind and friendly and helpful guy, as well as a capable lawyer in his own right. Plus, he kicks ass with a baseball bat.
POWER: None of these are canonical, Foggy is an unpowered person in canon.
Lie Detector: Foggy can tell when someone's lying to him, by way of a nebulous Bad Feeling in the back of his mind. The more egregious the lie, the worse his feeling will get. He won't know exactly what the lie is, he'll just know they're lying to him, and it will be frustrating to him. Also, this doesn't work on lies by omission, so if, say, someone were to conveniently leave out that they were at a crime scene last night while talking to him, he won't know.
Fog Manipulation: Foggy can generate and manipulate fog. Essentially this just means that he can cause either a light fog for purposes of a noir aesthetic, or a heavy fog like you'd get in the mountains, and any other kind of fog in between. He can also do the same with fog that's already existing, so if you're going up into a foggy place you can bring him along so you can see further than two feet. This will be tied into his emotions at first, so when he's incredibly upset it'll be easy enough to tell because you won't be able to see further than the tip of your nose, but with time and effort he can learn to consciously control it.
